In “Finding Lucinda” we learn where her pedigree for great writing comes

EPISODE DROP!!!! The new episode of Roots Music Rambler is live today and is sooooo good! We talk to @ismaymusic (Avery Hellman) who directed and starred in a documentary film called “Finding Lucinda” in which they searched for more understanding of songwriter Lucinda Williams’s life and music. The discoveries led to a new way of songwriting for Ismay’s new album coming in June.

We talked about the movie, their music, songwriting, poetry and a lot more. They told us that understanding Lucinda’s poet father and upbringing around great writers revealed so much about her craft.

Watch the episode right now on our YouTube channel (@rootsmusicrambler) on our website at rootsmusicrambler.com or listen wherever you get podcasts!

Frank and Falls also share some cool Pickin’ the Grinnin’ choices (Charley Pride and @kindheartedstrangers) plus discuss their favorite songwriters.

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Singer-Songwriter Ismay goes Finding Lucinda, Discovers Self

Americana/Folk artist Ismay (Avery Hellman) was in a Lucinda Williams cover band started by their father early in her adult life. As a singer-songwriter herself, the musician, rancher and self-identified “dreamer” went looking for more understanding of the legendary singer-songwriter and produced an outstanding documentary called Finding Lucinda.

The film documents their journey of more self-discovery than anything else, but their interviews and path to learn more about Lucinda led them to understand Williams grew up the daughter of, and surrounded by poets. The result, besides the beautifully done film, was Hellman decided to learn to write poetry.

Those learnings and evolution in their artistry led to their next big project – a new album called Half Truth, due out June 12th on Fossil Records.

Frank and Falls chatted with Hellman about the film, Lucinda Williams, poetry, and the new album on this week’s episode of Roots Music Rambler. The trio also discussed Fossil Records, a new label co-founded by Hellman and friend of the show Margo Cilker (see Episode 35).

There was a lot to cover and unpack with Hellman’s journey and art. Give the full episode a watch or listen. You’ll enjoy it.

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Buckle up for The Hoe-Down and the Throw-Down! It’s a new episode of Roots Music Rambler.

Notes and links:

– Finding Lucinda (film) – https://www.findinglucindafilm.com/
– Ismay Online – https://www.ismaymusic.com/
– Ismay on Spotify – https://open.spotify.com/artist/77sFDwywxshHFqKu6rVXIp?si=i8hsjBPXTgqJA_RC9WPzog
– Ismay on Instagram – https://www.instagram.com/ismaymusic/
– David LaMotte on Spotify – https://open.spotify.com/artist/6AhIniN8IQAPWsCtEoGnqV?si=9WaSYaawQSu_28JsGI2qBw
– Roots Music Rambler Episode 12 – Does Wilco Suck? – https://rootsmusic.link/doeswilcosuck
– Fossil Records – https://fossilrecordsco.com/
– Roots Music Rambler interview with Margo Cilker – https://rootsmusic.link/margocilker
– The Roots Music Rambler Store – https://rootsmusicrambler.com/store
– Roots Music Rambler on YouTube – https://youtube.com/@rootsmusicrambler
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– Jason Falls on Instagram – https://instagram.com/jasonfalls
– Jason Falls on TikTok – https://tiktok.com/@thejasonfalls
– Francesca Folinazzo on Instagram – https://www.instagram.com/workmomtravels/

Pickin’ the Grinnin’ Choices

– Charley Pride on Spotify – https://open.spotify.com/artist/69Fk1s1lzINOKqoSWjjEiE?si=enYnofvaQBaW0vTa-MYvtA
– Kind Hearted Strangers on Spotify – https://open.spotify.com/artist/1lZYp35BLl5W33fC5jCuwN?si=DZOacxYERbG143ECTljzsQ

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Theme Music: Sheepskin & Beeswax by Genticorum; Copyright 2026 – Falls+Partners. All music on the program is licensed by ASCAP, BMI and SESAC. Roots Music Rambler is a member of the Americana Music Association.

Americana and Folk artist Ismay goes Finding Lucinda, Discovers Self

Americana/Folk artist Ismay (Avery Hellman) was in a Lucinda Williams cover band started by their father early in her adult life. As a singer-songwriter herself, the musician, rancher and self-identified “dreamer” went looking for more understanding of the legendary singer-songwriter and produced an outstanding documentary called Finding Lucinda. The film documents their journey of more…